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19 May 2010 @ 01:03 pm
Deaf and Unemployed  
Well, for the first time in my 24 plus years in the job force, I'm unemployed.  As I've begun my job search, I've noted a marked difference from the last time I was actively seeking a job.  Employers seem more aware and more accepting of a candidate who is deaf or has a hearing loss.  More and more employers have TDD numbers, and so forth.  Make no mistake, I realize there is still a long way to go, BUT....

It has led me to not only think about the changes on the landscape for us in general since the passage of the ADA back in 1990, but also to think about the job search for many of the other deaf and hard of hearing members of the community.  I have to wonder if sometimes the deaf and hard of hearing limit themselves too much, searching only for jobs in specific fields, or in specific localities, etc?  The employment numbers don't lie.  Something like a staggering 25% or more of the deaf and hard of hearing communities are unemployed, many others are employed, but at lower wages that often do not equate to the poverty line, and often require holding more than one job just to pay the bills, or going on SSI or SSDI.

Education is a large reason, I have no doubt.  Many graduate from deaf schools and mainstream schools ill-prepared for the challenges of the working world, with poor written English skills, being behind their hearing peers in math and science, and so on.  75% of deaf students will drop out after their first year of college and never return.  Look around you, count 10 of your peers.  Almost 8 out of every 10 will not finish college if you are currently a student, and if you are already out (or a graduate), almost 8 of every 10 never finished.  That's astounding, and upsetting too.  More often than not, it is a failure of the education field to properly (TRULY properly) accommodate them with interpreters and so on.  There is also still the question of many who question WHY they need to write or communicate well with English.  I'm here to tell you now, as both a former hiring manager AND as a current prospective employee, proper communication skills in the written vernacular are essential.  I have seen MANY jobs listed as seeking candidates in my field (loss prevention, safety, security, investigations), and I have also seen MANY of these postings with grammatical errors, spelling errors, etc.  So poor English skills are NOT limited to the deaf or hard of hearing, don't get me wrong, but when I read blogs and comments as I peruse through the DeafRead postings and so forth, I cringe.  Call me a deaf audist if you want.  Say I look down my nose at others in the deaf community if you wish ( I do not), but the fact remains, good communication skills are essential.  Almost every position I have seen the requirements posted for have had a requirement posted that states something along these lines: "Must have excellent oral OR written communication skills".

I have to think back some, to my time in college, and wonder about the wisdom of on particular area of deaf education.  See, when I was in college, one of THE biggest alternatives to going into deaf education was going into the computer science field.  It was hailed as a job market that allowed the deaf and hard of hearing to be accomplished because many of the jobs focused primarily on computer skills.  Code writing, programming, etc.  I've since seen many people complain that even that field did not turn out to be the jobs bonanza it was thought to be.  Could the focus on this have taken away from the focus of developing GOOD skills in comunication, a basic staple of employment?  We will probably never know, since there is not a true quantifiable way to judge that.  But it is certainly a thought.  Many of our successful forebears were successful in large part NOT because they could communicate well orally (although many did and could), but because they were well-versed in the basics of education: Reading, writing, and arithmetic (math).  It goes to reason that many fail because they are left behind in the early childhood educational areas, whether it be due to poor/no accommodations, poor role models, or  poor planning, etc.  And the problems are excaberated when they reach college and it becomes "just too hard:" to keep up.

Anyway, just some random thoughts from my head as I cruise along the job search highway.  Thanks for reading along.

Eddie
 
 
( 24 comments — Leave a comment )
(Anonymous) on May 19th, 2010 07:43 pm (UTC)
I guess I need a writing interpreter for everything I write. :/ Most already know we have bad writing and wish we could figure out how to write better, so don't rub it in our face.
Thumpaflash[info]thumpaflash on May 19th, 2010 08:09 pm (UTC)
Not at all...I'm bemoaning the fact that the educational system failed you (and others) early on. And writing better is simply a matter of practice, then having it reviewed for contructive feedback, etc. The point was not to rub it in anyone's face, the point was that writing and writing well is important. It's not intended to say your writing "sucks" or to rub it in your face.
(Anonymous) on May 19th, 2010 08:11 pm (UTC)
If people had the time to go over it for every comments and blogs.. but no one does so we are on our own.
Thumpaflash[info]thumpaflash on May 19th, 2010 09:16 pm (UTC)
No, obviously not. Do you know any hearing people, or any deaf that write well? ASk them to review your writings and provide insight or feedback. Come on, I shouldn't have to tell you this, THINK a little. Be creative. If you TRULY care to improve yourself on ANY aspect of life, what do you do? You seek out someone good in that area and ask their advice. Same with writing. Yeah, you ARE on your own. That's the only way to succeed, you can't depend on someone else to do everything for you.
(Anonymous) on May 19th, 2010 09:53 pm (UTC)
How am I suppose to know who write well and who doesn't? I have to blindly accept their correction. Those who do write well are too busy with their own life anyway. Being successful and all, you know. Others will just say, "oh it is fine as it is"... laziness on their part. Like everything else in life, they are too busy.
Thumpaflash[info]thumpaflash on May 20th, 2010 12:17 pm (UTC)
No, you do not. Generally speaking, for example, a newspaper article is typically well written (there ARE some that don't proofread well, but rare), so compare your writing to how they write. Are you still friends with any of your old English teachers from school/ Approach them, if so. Go to a job-training place (many have reduced or no fees nowadays) and seek out the ESL (English as a second language) instructor and ask for advice. And so on and so on. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!!!! Good luck, and for what it is worth, your comments here have been well-written.
(Anonymous) on May 21st, 2010 11:39 am (UTC)
I have taken English in college, and other writing courses as well unbelievable I passed, but I forgotten everything.

Alldeaf.com (in the writing/creative section) have thread for people who want to improve their writing as they post, but I am not seeing anyone helping them yet.
Thumpaflash[info]thumpaflash on May 21st, 2010 03:13 pm (UTC)
I did not know about that section. I will check it out and volunteer my services to help where I can.
(Anonymous) on May 19th, 2010 08:29 pm (UTC)
RLM
My sympathy go to you and your job hunting. Have u apply for the NAD Executive Director postiton few months ago?

RLM
Thumpaflash[info]thumpaflash on May 19th, 2010 09:17 pm (UTC)
Re: RLM
I did apply and never heard back. Oh well, I'm not surprised, knowing the NAD.
(Anonymous) on May 19th, 2010 10:21 pm (UTC)
Re: RLM
You ought to follow-up with the NAD search committee to find out whether they receive your application. :)

RLM
Thumpaflash[info]thumpaflash on May 20th, 2010 12:09 pm (UTC)
Re: RLM
I got an email saying they had received it several hours after I sent it, so I know they got it. No communication since then.
(Anonymous) on May 20th, 2010 09:02 pm (UTC)
Re: RLM
Thumpaflash: How about posting your profile at YesDeafCan website? The website is dedicated to all deaf individuals who are striving to succeed in their professional goals and ambitions.
Thumpaflash[info]thumpaflash on May 21st, 2010 05:38 am (UTC)
Re: RLM
Done
(Anonymous) on May 21st, 2010 02:12 pm (UTC)
Re: RLM
Thanks. Please spread the message about the new website to your deaf friends.
(Anonymous) on May 20th, 2010 12:01 am (UTC)
Fluent Communication required?
I worked on a team that was hiring another member, and the job description contained "Must be fluent in spoken English" I wrote a memo to the boss that I use written English and no speaking at all in my job, and that this was both irrelevant and discriminatory against future deaf applicants. It was removed. (This was probably included because we outsourced a lot of work to India.) The person that was hired was not deaf, sad to say.
Thumpaflash[info]thumpaflash on May 20th, 2010 12:12 pm (UTC)
Re: Fluent Communication required?
Excellent example of you pointing out a mistake that could potentially have turned away deaf job seekers. While you all did not hire anyone deaf for the position, due to your sharp eye, you prevented them from just skipping on past applying for the job, at least, and educated your employer.
(Anonymous) on May 20th, 2010 01:23 am (UTC)
I have launched a website which is dedicated to all deaf individuals who are striving to succeed in their professional goals and ambitions. I want to let the employers know that Deaf people can do anything except hear so please feel free to post your profiles if you want to show your abilities and talents to the world. Let us take pride in ourselves!!! The website address is http://www.yesdeafcan.com.
(Anonymous) on May 20th, 2010 03:42 pm (UTC)
Misconceptions of deafness still exist regardless of ADA
No surprise here. With over 30 yrs experience in IT (ranging from programmer to project manager) with several well known firms, I was let go in early 2000's due to all of our jobs outsourcing to India for cheaper labor. I am in the same boat with you. I find that before ADA implementation, I had almost no problem of finding and changing jobs. After ADA was established and a lot more people are aware of deafies' abilities and even NTID keeps telling many employers that we can do this or that, STILL many hiring managers and human resource people are concerned about how we deal with phone calls, again are concerned about how we deal with various meetings and so on and they are more scare of considering us now than they would have been before ADA. I guess for this respect, ADA did and does HURT us!!!!!!!! Lot of loopholes in ADA regulations!!!!
Thumpaflash[info]thumpaflash on May 20th, 2010 03:50 pm (UTC)
Re: Misconceptions of deafness still exist regardless of ADA
Hmm, it's a two sided issue. The argument could also be made that, prior to the ADA, many firms simply just passed on hiring those with disabilities because they didn't want, and were not required to, provide accommodations. One of the most constant answers I heard was that I was "overqualified" for positions I applied for. I always responded that I didn't care about that, that I simply wanted in on the ground floor and would earn my way up. Often never heard back. After the ADA, I had a little more room to manuever, and could suggest simple, cost effective modes of accommodation that they could not ignore. Two sides to every story I guess. Good luck to you, and thanks for sharing.
(Anonymous) on May 20th, 2010 05:14 pm (UTC)
Re: Misconceptions of deafness still exist regardless of ADA
Even if you offer them cost effectiveness of communication methods such as TDD, interpreter et al, many employers want everything as FREE as possible period or want to do that for ONE TIME only not on continuous basis. At times, CEO's of some major firms announce that they make 2 million dollars mistake, no big deal. However for our needs, it is BIG DEAL to them even tho our requirements do not cost 2 million dollars per se.
Thumpaflash[info]thumpaflash on May 20th, 2010 06:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Misconceptions of deafness still exist regardless of ADA
And I can't blame them for wanting accommodations as free as possible, from a business perspective. However, I have to disagree with your "no big deal" comment. In today's times, that kind of mistake is certainly a big deal, with the scrutiny many of them are undergoing. I can't get into an argument with you on how many of them are ignorant, etc., because I don't disagree with you. All I can attest to is that when I have offered solutions to keep me on a full time basis, even when there are recurring expenses, they have agreed that it is cost efficient and have worked with me. I don't know, maybe I've been lucky, or more persuasive, etc., who knows? I can only speak to my personal experiences.
[info]funnyoldlife.wordpress.com on May 22nd, 2010 12:05 am (UTC)
Good points
This is an interesting post, and you make lots of good points. I work as a careers consultant at a top university in England, and I see mostly hearing clients. I was born deaf, and also write professionally. I managed to achieve a decent level of English without the help of interpreters at school. It CAN be done, but I didn't sit back and expect someone else to do it for me. I just got on with it, deaf or not. I think some individuals, whether deaf or hearing, are too lazy to improve themselves and look to place the blame on others for their shortcomings. I see lots of hearing people with extremely poor resumes - poor spelling, poor grammar, descriptive writing, the lot.

I tried an experiment after I left university. I sent resumes to 6 employers and was upfront about my deafness. I then sent resumes to another 6 employers and made sure there was no reference to my deafness - no sign language courses etc. I had no response from the first batch of employers. The second batch of employers ALL rang my home number, wanting to interview me. Of course, mother had to take the phone calls, and she explained that I couldn't hear on the phone. They all dropped me like a hot potato. I have since learned not to disclose my disability until they invite me for interview and I want reasonable adjustments made for that interview. You will be able to explain, in interview, what your solutions are (not problems!). You will be able to give a much better presentation face to face than on paper.

Yep, it's all about communication. Being deaf in a hearing world, we have to be so much more careful than the Average Joe to communicate appropriately. Good luck with the job hunt.
(Anonymous) on June 27th, 2010 05:34 am (UTC)
Hearing required
I am 24 years old. I grew up with perfect hearing. At age 18, I got an infection that inflamed the auditory nerve. As a result, I lost most of my hearing. I completed college, only to be refused every job I applied for because of my hearing loss. The South Dakota Department of Labor even hired a case worker, but the story was the same "excellent listening skills are required for any job. Deaf people can't do that so we won't hire!". Business would rather be sued or fined than hire a deaf person where I live. My case was closed indefinitely as "UNSUCCESSFUL".